Replay Music 3.5 not identifying tracks

[jantypas]

This is old news, many, many, many people are noting that Replay Music no longer reliably identifies tracks, or no longer identifies tracks at all (as in my case).

For completeness, as Support will ask:

1. This was never a problem prior to 3.3x. Since then, 0% of the tracks identiified.
2. XP , Vista-32 and Vista-64 all fail
3. I record from Rhapsody 4
4. I've tried all the various volume settings
5. All songs are complete, and sound just fine, they just aren't identified.

In short, Applian, you're software is in need of repair. I'm greatly concerned most of the reports ask us to change random settings and volume levels. We never had to do this before when you used Gracenote. It seems to me your new solution is, at best, very particular and far too complex to be used with anything but Beta software. Until it is reliable, go back to Gracenote so we can continue to use this product. Again, it works when we use Gracenote -- I'd pay more, for a reliable product if that's what it takes.

This reminds me of JRiver's Media Center product. They too, switched from Gracenote and it took YEARS before their product came back up to a quality level. I still use it, but it too no less than two major release to recover.

[Cheryl Wester]

If the songs you are trying to record are from a new album they might not have it in the database as of yet. We have found that it takes a little longer for the database to populate.

Replay Music needs to hear the entire song in order to identify the track. So, please make sure that Replay Music can hear the entire song and that it is being played from a good clean source with ample silence broadcasted between tracks.

For best recognition, make sure that the splitting settings are set to their defaults. In settings, go to the splitting tab and click the use defaults button.

I know you have mentioned that the songs are complete but I wanted to say that for other readers of the forum. Do make sure you are running in administrative mode. If you continue to have a problem contact tech support as we will need your log file. Thanks.

[jgatie]

I too found that the newer version of RM didn't reliably ID music. Then I switched the input from Volume to Audio Driver. 180 degrees difference.

[Cheryl Wester]

Great. That is what we prefer that you use-audio capture and not one of the others.

[gonegator]

I just updated to Replay 3.5 and 0% tracks are identified. I did not realize they went away from gracenote. Is there a way to go back to previous version or have they found a fix yet?

[Donnellpj]

I am experiencing the same exact issues. I might get 1 in 10 songs to actually identify, if I am lucky. It seems to be hit or miss.

I might get a current song to work, but not one from 30 years ago. Makes the "incomplete database" theory sort of unreliable.

I am using all defaults in the splitting tag, and "audio driver" as the source as reccomended. Still not tagging correctly.

What was the change in ID tagging software, and how do I know if its even working as intended? With Gracenote, you always knew when it was working, where with the new method, there is no indiaction its even checking before it times out.


UPDATE: I reverted back to v2.51 and re-recorded a track that was otherwise not tagging at all. Gracenote had it tagged before the track finished playing. RM v3.5 appears to be broken.

[xteife]

I just upgraded from 2.5 to 3.5 and am getting about 50% song recognition. I used to pull exclusively from Rhapsody and got probably over 85%, but have only tried Pandora with 3.5. I have not changed any of the defaults settings except for the record rate and the destination folder. Pretty disappointed. Might just have to uninstall and re-install 2.5...

[cain]

You'll get better sound quality from Last.Fm, Jango.Com and Slacker.com than you will Pandora.com. FWIW.

For those services:

Last.Fm = WebStream Dumper
Jango.Com and Slacker.Com = Http Media

128 bit on all of them, whereas Pandora is moving to 64k lossless, which is okay, but not as great as the others.

[maxrenn]

Hello, actually Pandora (like Aol Radio) streams HE-AAC (or AAC+) files.
I made a blind test between those files and 128kb mp3's and really could not
tell the difference.
The real problem with .m4a files is that windows explorer does not see the tags
and that you must download a AAC+ plugin for windows media player.
Moreover most mp3 players do not recognize this format and play it as it had a
22 050 frequency instead of 44100.

[cain]

Thank you for the insight.

For my conclusion I was basing it off of captured streams from Pandora that I then played in iTunes. From the player (Pandora) to iTunes, there is a marked difference (your explanation now helps me understand.)

Thank you.